Thursday, April 15, 2010


Zionist extremists in the UK (and elsewhere) are trying to have opposition to Israeli war crimes and human rights abuses labelled "anti-semitism". Their efforts came to naught in a Scottish court -
Sheriff James Scott ruled that “the comments were clearly directed at the State of Israel, the Israeli Army, and Israeli Army musicians”, and not targeted at “citizens of Israel” per se. “The procurator fiscal’s attempts to squeeze malice and ill will out of the agreed facts were rather strained”, he said.
The Sheriff expressed concern that to continue with the prosecution would have implications for freedom of expression generally: “if persons on a public march designed to protest against and publicise alleged crimes committed by a state and its army are afraid to name that state for fear of being charged with racially aggravated behaviour, it would render worthless their Article 10(1) rights. Presumably their placards would have to read, ‘Genocide in an unspecified state in the Middle East’; ‘Boycott an unspecified state in the Middle East’ etc.

12 comments:

fleming said...

Dude, its all a bunch of sound and fury, signifying nothing. Israel is there to stay - until and unless it can be overrun, militarily, by its enemies. I dont see that happening == especially as the US would step in if needed.

The paleos best hope is some sort of 2 state solution. Otherwise, count on another 1000 years, at least, of misery and depravation for them. Its their choice.

Jemmy Hope said...

A thousand year zionist reich? Nothing lasts that long.
There's an old Irish epigram I've quoted before with regard to the plight of the Palestinian people -

"The world laid low, and the wind blew - like a dust -
Alexander, Caesar and all their followers.
Tara is grass, and look how it stands with Troy.
And even the English - maybe they might die.

It took 800 years for the Irish to throw off the English yoke, but things move faster nowadays.

Keep spending America's billions on the Israeli killing machine. I know you prefer that to spending America's wealth for the benefit of Americans. Some patriot you, flem.

fleming said...

However long Israel lasts, its a wealthier, more advanced and all around better functioning nation than palestine. In fact, its not even a close competition. So if I had to put my money on somebody, it'd be Israel.

And I obviously dont have to tell you, but England is still there, and doing just fine. The Irish didnt destroy England, or take it over. They just managed to carve a piece of the pie for themselves. That is exactly what Im advocating for the paleos.

You and I know that you could care less about how the US spends its tax payer dollars, so lets not adopt this false outrage about it going to Israel. You only bring it up in the (misguided hope/belief) that removal of the funds would make Israel too weak to defend itself from Arab hordes.

First, in the big scheme of things, Israel gets a relatively small amount, especially since they spend most of it buying weapons from US companies. In addition, they have a very strong technology sector, both civilian and military, and we benefit from that. I dont mind giving out dough where we get a good return on our investment. What really irks me are "black holes of giving" that just take take take and give us nothing back -- and even DEMAND more. Those are the places we should cut off - pronto.

fleming said...

From today's WSJ:

"For all the current talk about Israel costing America lives and treasure, the striking fact is that the U.S. has never had to go to war to defend the Jewish state. This is more than can be said for Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Lebanon, Bosnia, Kosovo and the people of Afghanistan and Iraq. That's because for 62 years Israelis have provided for their own defense, in an alliance with the U.S. that has reflected American values and—in both the Cold War and the war on terror—advanced American interests."

fleming said...

By getting their country back, do you mean ALL of Israel proper? Because that is a far, far reach. Basically, we are talking about the eradication of the Israeli state. That is no small matter, and really, how Ireland fared has ultimately nothing to do with how the paleos will end up. Their fates may be similiar, or they may be completely different. You or I have no way of knowing.


If you dont pay your taxes you go to jail. I pay my taxes.

You understand it all goes into a big pot, right? We have no control over what gets spent where. Some of the spending I have HUGE issues with, of course. Israel dollars are fine with me, for the reasons the WSJ stated.

And tell me Jemmy, what kind of havoc is the US military creating in Britain exactly? How are you directly affected? What makes palestine your concern? Arent there people in the UK, in your own neighborhood perhaphs, who need your help? What about the hundreds of millions in China, Africa and India who are so desperately poor and impoverished they dont even possess an AK-47 or RPG (like your average paleo)??? :)

r.s. said...

From today's WSJ:

"For all the current talk about Israel costing America lives and treasure, the striking fact is that the U.S. has never had to go to war to defend the Jewish state.”

Complete bullshit from the bowls of the ziocon Lie Factory, served on the silver platter of mainstream media to the American public, and Fleming swallowed it whole.

The US wouldn’t be fighting endless wars in the distant Middle East at all if it wasn't for the defense of the Jewish state. This is the real reason behind the US invasion of Iraq and its wish to overthrow the governments of Syria and Iran.

Jemmy Hope said...

Wreaking havoc worldwide -
http://www.endusmilitarism.org/countriesbombed.html
Should I feel grateful to the Pentagon for not bombing the UK? Or grateful to successive British governments for cravenly following Globocop's orders and calling this humiliation a "special relationship"?
As your bomb-happy representatives make the world less safe for all its inhabitants I exrercise my right to be resentful, not grateful. Just because your miltary hasn't got round to bombing us yet I'm not going to sing "God Bless America".

Jemmy Hope said...

Nice hearing from you, r.s.

fleming said...

So RS, the real reason for the invasion of Iraq was to defend Israel? Ive heard we did it for oil, Ive heard we did it to stimulate our military industrial complex, Ive heard it was for Bush's personal revenge on Saddam for trying to kill his father, Ive even heard it was to stop Alqueda getting WMDs, but THAT is the first time Ive heard Israel was the cause! Congrats RS, you have broken new ground! LOL

I read the WSJ everday as do millions of america. You are going to have to do better than call every thing written positively about Israel a zio-necocon-aipac conspiracy. It just sounds sound so nutbaggery/fruitcakery/psycho/zealout/fanatic/crazy-person-ish. haha

The bottom line is, we have not fought a war yet to defend Israel directly. That is a FACT. And we have fought direct wars to defend Kuwait, Saudia Arabia, Lebanon, etc. Another FACT.

You can make up crazy conspiracy theories that suit your perspective all day long RS, but the FACTS are the FACTS.

Try again if you like, but please dont go the nutbag route. :)

fleming said...

Dear me Jemmy, as long as you dont hang out in the territory between Pakistan and Afghanistan, Im sure you have nothing to fear from US predator drones and stealth attack bombers :)

We dont bomb our pals Jemmy. Be our pal, nothing to worry about. But if our enemy, best keep one eye on the sky at all times.

See, its pretty simple, what it takes to avoid being bombed. Act like our buddy, we're cool. Act like our enemy, Death From Above. I know you get it Jemmy.

r.s. said...

Thanks Jemmy, nice place, i like it allot

r.s. said...

Fleming, you're throwing away a fortune, don't be a fool!

http://www.zionismexplained.org/iraq/iraq.html